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Source: https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/rules-game-mechanics/57297-casting-2-spells-in-one-round
#1 Feb ten, 2020
I have recently started a home game again, first 1 in 5e, and I was under the impression from my reading that you lot could only bandage 1 spell per round, fifty-fifty if that spell is listed as a bonus action. I of my first time players has brought up several online D&D streams were they are allowed to cast multiple spells in the same round. This player plays a warlock and believes that he should exist able to bandage eldrich nail twice in one round, once as an action and once as a bonus action, per these online streams.
Am I missing a rule somewhere, where this is possible?
Give thanks y'all for your aid.
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#2 Feb 10, 2020
Yous can simply cast a spell as a bonus activity if it has a cast time of '1 bonus action', Eldritch Smash does not (unless they've multiclassed into Sorcerer and are quickening the spell - don't retrieve there's another way?..). He could, however, cast Hex equally a bonus action and Eldritch Nail equally an activity. The rule basically follows that y'all tin can only cast one levelled spell per plow.
Perhaps your actor has misunderstood how Eldritch Blast works at lv v (x, fifteen) where in that location are multiple projectiles per casting.
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#3 Feb 10, 2020
If you're a sorcerer who happens to have eldritch nail somehow, you can quicken it and cast it every bit a bonus action. You tin can so cast information technology again equally an action, because eldritch blast is a cantrip.
To explain: the actual rule is that if you cast a spell as a bonus action, the only other spells you can cast that turn are cantrips with a cast time of one action.
So if y'all quicken a spell, you can get two spells cast, one of which has to be a one-action cantrip, which eldritch smash is.
If you're a fighter with activity surge, you tin utilize that to cast 2 one-action spells with no restrictions (although if you've done a bonus action spell, the 1-action spells nevertheless have to exist cantrips).
[EDIT] SwiftSign raises a very important point that I didn't explicitly mention: y'all tin just cast a spell every bit a bonus activeness if its listed bandage time is i bonus action, or if some specific feature lets y'all practice so (like the sorcerer's Quicken Spell metamagic that I mentioned).
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#4 February 10, 2020
At that place are a few means to cast multiple spells per round:
The rules can seem a little complicated, merely basically only bonus activeness spellcasting has a special restriction (which is that when you cast BA spell'south the just other spells you are allowed to bandage that turn are cantrips equally an activeness). All spells can only be cast with their specific timing unless a feature allows otherwise.
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#5 Feb 10, 2020
Long-form rule:
x:1 your player doesn't understand the rules on bonus action spellcasting, and/or they are watching people whom play with homebrew rules.
Unless they're also a Sorcerer with Quickened Spell, have Activity Surge from levels in Fighter, and/or have that magic particular... they're non allowed to cast Eldritch Smash twice in the same turn.
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#6 Feb 11, 2020
That is not a rule. It's often a event of other rules, but the simply actual rule limiting spellcasting specifically is the Bonus Action casting rule. Aside from that, the just limit is the action economy, which is why Activity Surge can be used to cast multiple leveled spells.
The biggest thing here, of course, is reactions. At that place is admittedly nothing stopping you from casting a 3rd-level spell with your action and a 3rd-level spell with your reaction in the aforementioned turn, provided yous haven't cast a leveled spell with a bonus action. In that location aren't very many spells that y'all tin can cast with a reaction, just 2 that could hands come into play with regularity are Counterspell, to counter some other caster's attempt to counter the spell you're casting with your action, and Shield, to defend against an Attack of Opportunity.
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#vii Feb xi, 2020
I would point out for eldritch blast something that was raised in the first response that should be reiterated and explained in more detail:
A warlock can cast eldritch blast one time per round with an activity (without intervening circumstances such equally quickened spell), but gains additional blasts at various levels (5th, 11th, and 17th). Unlike most cantrips, when Eldritch blast improves, you don't simply gain dice, you gain additional attacks with it. Depending on the stream that your histrion has been watching, the campaign may accept been between fifth and 11th level, and the thespian was only taking both attacks available to them at that time.
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#8 February 11, 2020
(1) That is why I said information technology was long-form, and didn't just quote the PHB... it is the bones rule considering that is the logical conclusion of the aggregated rules. I very conspicuously laid out the possible scenarios, and specifically addressed Action Surge already.
(2) Reaction spells, at their functional baseline, cannot exist cast on your turn. I know y'all already know this, so I'm just gonna explain for others. Reactions areonly taken in response to something that adifferent creature does. That typically necessitates that a reaction ability is only eligible for use on some other creatures turn, not your own. The two scenarios y'all mentioned are very proficient examples that break the mold. Feather Fall afterwards provoking an opportunity assault that somehow knocks you off a cliff would be another i.
There'southward nothing wrong in what I've said. The OP is asking about a more specific scenario, and that's what I addressed.
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#9 Feb eleven, 2020
Sigred is incorrect both that merely one leveled spell can be cast on your turn ((see Action Surge) and that leveled spell reactions tin't exist cast on your own turn (see Warcaster if a brute provoked you on your turn, see Plumage Autumn). The others have summarized correctly.
The dominion is pretty straightforward in the volume. Quit trying to summarize/explain it, and instead quote it, and all volition be clear.
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#11 Feb 11, 2020
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Here's the rule:
That's it, that'southward the whole rule in question. You can bandage whatever spells yous take slots for/prepared/have features for, in whatever way those spells tell you to cast them, with whatever actions those spells provide for. Theonly rule you need to keep in mind is, if you bandage any spell using a bonus action (or plan to bandage whatsoever spell using a bonus action), and then the just other spell that can be bandage (or thatwere alreadycast) that turn is a cantrip with a casting time of 1 activeness.
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#12 Feb 11, 2020
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Which had already been stated clearly by others. Why would I just parrot what anybody already knew we were talking about? Spellcasting as a reaction is already irrelevant to the bonus activeness rule. The OP wanted to know nearly situations pertaining to Eldritch Smash, and how itmight be cast more than than one time in a player's plough. There are cypher possible circumstances in which a thespian can use a reaction to cast that spellon their plow.
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#thirteen Feb eleven, 2020
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#14 February 12, 2020
This is a proficient indicate and could have contributed to the defoliation.
Every bit for long form of the spellcasting rules it is actually shorter and simpler than sigred put it:
That is information technology. No dominion preventing casting multiple spells followed by iv.5 exceptions. Only i rule that limits which spells can be bandage if specific atmospheric condition are met. (Sigred also didn't mention cantrips in multiple places where cantrips should exist mentioned which is another reason why a long list of exceptions is a bad format).
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#fifteen Feb 12, 2020
For me, the key to understanding this dominion was that it was not meant to restrict spellcasting in full general. The rule was meant to utilise specifically to bonus activity spells. If a bonus action spell is not being cast, then you may cast whatever your action economy allows for.
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#16 February 13, 2020
This. Remind the player that Critical Part uses homebrewed spellcasting rules.
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#17 Aug 16, 2021
Thanks, came here to clarify if a sorcerer could cast ii fireballs in i plow using quickened spell. As I couldn't readily find in the sorcerer department of either the PHB or the Basic rules where this argument is stemming from, and it just seems that simply from the sections I read information technology ways that one could simply utilize quickened spell as they wanted
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#18 Aug 16, 2021
In your case, a sorcerer could non cast two fireballs on their plow with quickened spell. This chart may help explain why information technology's a problem:
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#19 Aug sixteen, 2021
Short reply: no.
Long answer: the spellcasting rules affiliate (not the grade chapter) about casting times.
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#20 Aug 17, 2021
I'm pretty certain a major of the quickened spell rule is to prevent sorcerers from casting two fireballs a turn.
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#22 Nov 14, 2021
I know this is an old thread, simply rules like this are why I loathe 5e. I get it that they're trying to keep things from getting OP simply man this is lame. I was getting my butt kicked as a wizard/cleric and tried to cast invisibility and healing give-and-take in the same round. Nope. LAME. Yet you lot tin cast a cantrip in the same round as casting a spell as a bonus action? Not bad and then information technology'south going to be generally offensive - usually a bonus action spell plus an attack cantrip. I cannot tell you how much I loathe 5e. No words for it.
OH! And I can't cast whatever other spell - not even a heal or something - without breaking invisibility? I mean nerf much?
Once again, 5e...ugh
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